The Cool Factor and the Message
The other day, I interviewed Matt Singer of Forward Montana and Left in the West as part of the research for my book. Matt has done impressive work in Montana, a state that is seriously trending blue due to the rise of Millennials as a percentage of the electorate (17% in 2006 vs. 13% nationally). Matt and about 15 other young Montanans (?) created Forward Montana on a shoestring budget in late 2004 as part of the ".org boom" - the explosion of youth run and youth focused groups that were created during the 2003/2004 campaign cycle. With a lot of volunteer work, some smart tactics, and some new grant money, they are turning Forward Montana into a sustainable organization for Millennial Generation political activism.
During our conversation, Matt said two things that I've been chewing on for the past two days.
First he spoke about the importance of cultural outreach, or making politics cool - a tactic I'm very familiar with from my MFA days. Second, he said that its not enough to talk about issues and it's not enough to create a group whose message "leads" with youth. If you want to create an effective organization that channels the energy of Millennials (or any young voters), you addresses the issues that they care about in a broader political context and make sure that your tactics and membership building are culturally relevant and integrated into their daily lives. The example that Matt gave of such groups was The Oregon Bus Project (which I can vouch for as a pretty cool organization that I've never seen "lead" with youth rhetoric).
I think that Matt is right on about cultural outreach, and it goes back to the Fish Ladder analogy. The best way to create the biggest pool of initial applicants is to make your activities as culturally relevant as possible to your potential members. If being a member of Forward Montana means joining a FaceBook group, or going to Drinking Liberally style events, you're going to get a whole lot more members and potential activists/organizers than if your first contact with a potential member is an ask to sign a petition or man a phone bank. From there it's just a matter of moving people up the ladder from one pool to the next, and maintaining as much of the "cool factor" as possible as the asks become more intense and more political.
As for the idea that youth groups should not organize and message around their identity as youth groups - I'm not totally sure I buy that, and would welcome everyone's thoughts.
For an organization like Forward Montana, avoiding direct "of by and for" youth rhetoric in favor of tactics that appeal to youth seems like it is the right strategy. At the same time, a generational call can be a powerful thing (see: Barack Obama), and for a certain set of Macro-level groups (for example, capacity, infrastructure, and leadership building organizations like Young People For)- focusing on youth as youth also seems like the way to go. After all, their goal is to build structures and power that can enhance our role in the progressive political movement. And then of course, there are groups like Young Democrats, whose explicit mission is to carve out a space for youth in Democratic Party politics. Their basis as an "identity group" is important, as is their role. They are trying to get campaigns to focus on young voters as a valuable segment of the electorate and as a resource beyond "cheap labor" within the party. Finally (and this is why I feel biased here and want more opinions), you've got something like Future Majority. Not an organization, but an entity none the less that is trying to hold a Macro view of the whole field of progressive youth organizing and draw that bigger picture.
Probably I'm trying to fit too many eggs in one basket. This is a large cross-section of groups with vastly different purposes. What makes sense for one, does not make sense for the other. None of this makes Matt's statement any less true, but there is a tension there, and it's been brewing around in my head for the last 2 days.
2008 Youth Vote in Context
The following charts and graphs are meant to contextualize the unique role that young voters played in the 2008 election, and their increasingly important role in a winning electoral coalition:
2008 Youth Electoral Map

2004 Youth Electoral Map

Youth Vote Partisan Advantage: 2000 - 2008

Youth Vote Historical Support: 1976 - 2008

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Look at it from the other direction
The AARP seems to do a pretty solid job of lobbying and politicking along age-group lines. “Youth” is a more transitory category that retirees, but there’re a few issues—age of driving?—that could prep teens for political action so that by the time they hit 18 (and let’s say for the sake of argument that “youth” is 18-24) they can hit the political ground running for those six years.
“Maintaining the ‘cool’ factor”? Sorry, but that sounds like marketing. And no generation’s been more adverse to marketing that this one. Politics needs to be made interesting in and of itself. We need a return to union halls and democratic clubs—the only way to truly maintain political power and representation is for politics to become personal, to be a part of people’s everyday lives and values.
The question is, what’s the 21st century analog of union halls? Is it facebook? Is it a [[http://cosmopolity.org/|Cosmopolity]] (Drinking Liberally, Laughing Liberally) model? Some combination thereof? Something else entirely?
Not Marketing, but an Authentic Vibe
It’s not marketing. It’s lifestyle. Why shouldn’t canvassing or going to community forums or phone banking be as fun as possible? Why do they necessarily need to be dull, drab things?
Eff that - even if you want to call it marketing, then it is marketing in the best sense of the word. Why do you go to the bars you do? What makes you choose a certain style of clothing or computer? What made you interested in MFA or Drinking Liberally. It’s the vibe. It’s how it fits into the way you live your life, and your interests - bot cultural and political.
That’s what I’m talking about when I say “maintain the cool factor.” Keep that vibe. Keep that cultural relevancy as vibrant as possible even as you move into really dry, nuts and bolts type of stuff.
You think Drinking Liberally doesn’t have a vibe? That they don’t do marketing? That a 21st Century Union Hall wouldn’t do that either? This is not inherently a bad thing, as long as it’s an authentic thing. The Bus Project is authentic. I’m guessing that Forward Montana is too, based on their successes.
We’re adverse to being sold a bill of goods by an inauthentic corporate voice. We’re not adverse to marketing. We’re quintessential marketers - of ourselves and our cultural tastes. It’s the authenticity that makes the difference.
Bingo
Absolutely. I think I’m just (overly?) sensitive to the notion of “coolness” as a (fickle, transitory) object of marketing. “Authenticity” raises some hackles too, but maybe I’m just overly sensitive and still not over the fact that I was so listening to Nirvana before you were.
I think we mostly agree here. But to bring the conversation back to the impetus for the Fishladder thread (i.e. “when GWB the Bad Guy is gone, will 90% of us get bored and go home?”), it’ll be useful to try to steer “politics are cool” efforts away from the transitory trendiness. Its not entirely possible to do so (elections are cyclical, after all) but I think wedding politics to notions of “social” is way more important that wedding politics to notions of “cool”.
Semantics
I think its all just a semantics game in that - at least in my conception of them - they are either flip sides of the same coin or identical things. Each flows from the other.
Social and Cultural
Or look at it this way. Union Halls worked - and I think you want to see them revivied and/or updated for the 21st Century - because they were also social institutions. Social Capital, Bowling Alone and all that good stuff.
When I’m talking about the cultural and the “cool factor,” I’m talking about setting up an environment whereby the political activity is also a social activity. It is an extension of the Union Hall or Drinking Liberally model mapped onto an organization and its activities instead of located in a central place (a bar, FaceBook, etc.).
the politics of exclusion
I’m currently working in the job Mike created at MFA, and we often make conscious decisions to use “us vs them” language- the us being “young people” and the “them” being everyone else.
I can say with assurance that when we do use this language, we get more offended responses from older people than young people writing back in solidarity.
My conclusion: If we were more careful with our messaging, we would avoid driving away people outside our target demographic with whom our message resonates.
Can you talk more about that?
Can you talk more about that? What do you mean by “older people?” (I mean beyond the link to the anecdote you provided).
I also wonder if we’re disagreeing or agreeing here. As I spoke with Matt, and as I wrote this blog this morning, I thought that MFA probably could benefit from Matt’s insight. And also that MFA is one of those groups at the bottom of the fish ladder. The cultural relevancy and the ease of joining are everything. MFA’s’ mission is to pull people into the lowest (and biggest) pool of participation.
But I’m still not convinced that applies to a group like Young Dems - who target young people because if they don’t, the party wouldn’t either (Dean may be awesome with the 50 state strategy, but that has not necessarily translated into more money and outreach to young voters). And Young People For - or other capacity building groups - are specifically targeted at a demographic for a good reason.
Again, I think it comes down to the fact that different strategies will work for different groups based on their mission. Are the “politics of exclusion” a bad thing - or perhaps more accurately is it even a valid term - when you are specifically targeting an underserved demographic to meet a need?
satellite orgs
What do you mean by “older people?â€
We draw a line in the sand when we talk about young and old. MFA is supposed to appeal to “people under 30-” so when I say “older people,” i mean people older than our target age demographic.
When we talk about young voters, we talk about people “35 and under.” I agree with Matt- targetting groups by age silly because age doesn’t really lead to accurate identity definitions. Just as some people who are 50 look like they’re 25, and vice versa, many people who are older than 35 struggle with the same issues we tend to group as “issues relavent to young people.” Lifestyles and personalities vary greatly between ages- everyone knows someone who’s 40 who acts 18, and someone who’s 18 who acts 40.
Look at it from a business perspective. You might market a skateboard or a ps2 towards 15 year-olds, but when a 40 year-old tries to buy your product, you don’t refuse the business. That’s just stupid. Likewise, if you’re in the business of creating political and social change, you can micro-target your message, but you should still be open for general consumption, cuz you want to be competitive. Even with our agist slant, MFA’s membership demographic in ‘06 was 80% under 30, but also 20% over. 20% is a significant amount of people.
But I’m still not convinced that applies to a group like Young Dems - who target young people because if they don’t, the party wouldn’t either (Dean may be awesome with the 50 state strategy, but that has not necessarily translated into more money and outreach to young voters). And Young People For - or other capacity building groups - are specifically targeted at a demographic for a good reason.
I think your mixing a few things up here. First off, Young Dems and Young People For have a coolness factor of “0”. So while they are engaging millennials, they aren’t even trying to do it through cultural means.
There’s a reason they can get away with this. Young Dems and Young People For are capitalizing on the success of the larger PFAW and Democratic party. Neither organization would be sustainable or even on the map without the existence of its “parent” org- although both do help sustain their parent org. From a marketing standpoint, the leading word “young” is less important than the words that come afterwards in both cases.
There aren’t many organizations out there that are popular enough that creating a “young [insert org name here]” would take off. Lessee, what’s a good example… imagine if “street prophets” created “young street prophets.” There would be zero chance of success.
The two success stories you’ve given arise out of rare situations, and therefore aren’t really worth a lot of study.
I think your mixing a few
I wasn’t suggesting that they were. In fact, I would suggest that Young Dems should be adopting more of cultural outreach strategy. But for the purposes of the question I posed about youth “identity” groups, I was separating out the whole “cool” aspect from my argument and asking purely about the necessity and effectiveness of restricting the org to youth as a target audience for a certain type of organization.
You would if you only had a limited number of skateboards and your wanted to make certain that 18-30 year olds increased their skateboarding skills. That’s sort of my point. For a group that is attempting to harness the attention and activism of a general audience, then yes, an affinity group model (punks, cat lovers, botanists, etc. vs arbitrary age demographics) makes more sense. A group like MFA should sell skateboards to everyone, even if their target audience is those under 30. But for specific types of groups - capacity building, leadership development - it does make sense to restrict the audience. That’s my point.
Maybe this is a lot simpler than we are making it. I was merely trying to apply Matt’s statement to all the groups I’ve been looking at, and realized that there was a class of groups that didn’t fit that mold.
Now, that doesn’t mean that YP4 or other capacity groups don’t need to think about cultural outreach too. Cultural outreach theories and case studies should be part of their programs and in the minds of those who go through their programs.
You also raise some really valid points about YDA. Having spoken to them, I see why they focus on youth (surprisingly, this is a new development for them, and a source of tension between the chapters and national office, and the cause of some of the most competitive YDA elections in years). The Democratic Party and campaigns don’t put any resources into turning out young voters. So YDA sees that as a big part of its mission. So they are run by youth to engage youth, to establish a generational foothold in party politics. This strategy is also a source of money for the organization. That said, they’d probably be much more effective if they embraced a cultural outreach strategy. It’s an interesting dilemma, and you’ve inspired me to write about it in more detail. I’ll go over my notes more carefully and try to blog more about this over the weekend.